Classic and Historic Registration 2022

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We have had numerous articles on this subject in either our Club’s Torque of the Town Journal or in this News page on the Web site.  The fact that there are more than 30% of the member’s cars are historically registered, it is important that we can keep you updated on benefits and processes to achieve Historic or Classic Registration.

If your car is older than 30 years, (manufactured on or before March 1992) and you are a financial member of the BMW NSW Drivers Club, then your vehicle or soon to be purchased vehicle, is probably eligible for either Historic (HVS) or Classic (CVS) vehicle registration. 

How do you take advantage of the significant savings the vehicle registration schemes provide?  If the vehicle is a BMW and you are prepared to restrict use of your vehicle to 60 days per annum Transport for NSW (TfNSW) will accept the registration as Historic or Classic under one of their special registration schemes.  If the vehicle is not a BMW, then the Club requires that you must be a current financial member and have been a financial member for a minimum of 12 months. For HVS and CVS, registration for both BMW and other marques, Membership must cover the 12-month period of registration of the vehicle to have your vehicle endorsed as either Historic or Classic registered.

 

There are some restrictions on use of Historic and Classic registered vehicles, the most important is that there is a legal limitation to the number of days which you can use the vehicle, as per the TfNSW’ s HVS or CVS Logbook.  The registered owner is obligated to complete the logbook detailing each day the vehicle is used.

For Classic Vehicles there is a TfNSW document on their web site which shows this:

Initially the TfNSW Web site would have you believe the restrictions are too onerous, however this does need to be read in conjunction with information relating to the Classic Vehicle Logbook, where the limit is simply 60 days.

The information below was published in our Torque of the Town magazine in 2021, and it does illustrate the financial benefit of HVS and or CVS, particularly if you are in the process of purchasing a 30-year+ vehicle.  And let’s face it, Classic BMWs are getting more  valuable in shorter time frames.

As an example, for standard vehicle registration:

With HVS or CVS registration:

Note the major difference in the cost of stamp duty not applying to HVS/CVS new purchases, and the CTP insurance affords a significant cost reduction, which might just help in getting that stamp of approval or permission from someone in the household.

The two schemes which are provided by TfNSW\ for vehicles that are 30 years or older and are still road worthy are Historic Vehicle Scheme (HVS) and Classic Vehicle Scheme (CVS).  In registering the vehicles under either of these two schemes entitles the registered owner to a significant reduction in registration costs (Circa $100 for year 1 and less than $50 per annum thereafter) and this includes the Greenslip insurance.  The with HVS or CVS your vehicle will “sport” special number plates to signify the registration status. 

For some years now, our Club has been able to endorse the HVS registrations, with Gary Winterbottom being the Club’s Historic Registration Registrar, approving the applications for our Club and Randall Lumbewe as the Club’s Classic Registration Registrar.

We have been working on making the applications for either HVS or CVS an easier process to navigate through and have produced functional flow charts to guide members and to ease the pain in dealing with the number of different NSW Government documents, not all of which are updated to be cohesive.

So, what is the difference between the two schemes HVS and CVS and what scheme does your 30 year (or older) vehicle come under?

  1. the vehicle must be 30 years or older and of course roadworthy.
  2. There are limitations on the number of times you are permitted to use the vehicle which is up to 60 times per annum including any Club events for which the vehicle is entered. Use of the vehicle outside of club events should, mainly be for maintenance and I guess to some extent testing.  The vehicle should not be your daily driver per se.
  3. The vehicle can be used in a Club event, but this is now not mandatory.  Of course, the Club organised event might be for a Social Drive or a Cars & Coffee, Supersprint or MotorKhana.
  4. HVS registration assumes the vehicle is substantially standard.  There may be some small modifications where (say) changes to add a distinctive appearance, the wheels or tyres or suspension upgrades (sway bars changes) might leave the vehicle significantly the same. Some approved modifications may require certifying by TfNSW.  Note that photos of the vehicle’s exterior, interior, engine bay, suspension and brakes should be provided to the registrar to confirm the vehicles eligibility for HVS. 
  5. A CVS registered vehicle must be less than 3.5tonnes (3500kg) gross vehicle mass.
  6. CVS allows for your 30-year-old vehicle to be modified.  Safety standards and compliance guidelines set by the TfNSW, and Australian Design Rules will apply. E.g., Modifications such as engine swap which is greater than 20% more displacement than the car’s original family engine capacity, fitting of a supercharger or turbocharger which increases the power output by more than 20%, coil overs, significant changes to the steering system, ECU changes etc. to name just a few.
  7. CVS modifications may require a Vehicle Safety Compliance Certificate (VSCC) from a TfNSW approved VSCC Engineering company. 

For both Schemes, there are TfNSW application forms that are required to be completed, and the Registered owner of the vehicle must be a financial member of a TfNSW approved Car Club for a minimum period of the duration of the Conditional Registration period.  The CVS requires significantly more paperwork and process to satisfy the TfNSW requirements with the possible inclusion of an Engineering VSCC, a Blue Slip and photographs of the vehicle interior, exterior and engine bay and any significant suspension changes.

To assist you in determining the scheme which will apply to your vehicle, a list of examples are provided in this important document, and you may find your vehicle is registered under the wrong scheme:

 http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roads/safety-rules/standards/vsi-06-light-vehicle-modifications.pdf

https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/RMS-Guideline-for-alternative-wheels-and-tyres-Vehicle-Standards-Information-No-9-November-2003.pdf

If you wade through the examples provided in VSI-6, it will help you determine if you need an Engineering VSCC, or it may simply require you to present your vehicle to the TfNSW for inspection and for them to certify.

You should contact Transport for NSW Technical Enquiries at:

Post:               PO Box 1120, Parramatta NSW 2124 E

Email:              

Telephone:     1300 137 302

Where a VSCC is required, the link below will provide a list of TfNSW approved engineers. The crunch here is that the VSCC will cost up to $2500. (this is offset if it is a “new” classic vehicle yet to be registered with the cost reduction in stamp duty).   Keep in mind that having a VSCC will have and add value to your classic vehicle.

https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/examiners/vsccs/map/index.html

In the past some vehicles that have been approved under the HVS and may not be compliant to the HVS and it is going to be up to the Club member / registered owner to review the requirements under CVS, accept responsibility for the registration status of their vehicle(s) and make changes if necessary.   As registrars for the vehicle registration schemes, our correct endorsement of the vehicle as historic or classic is paramount to our club’s ability to continue to participate in the TfNSW registration schemes

Should members wish to review the RMS CVS documents here are additional links to follow:

 

Historic registration:

HVS is a relatively straight forward process, but I encourage you to follow the information and Download  Historic Vehicle Registration flowchart and follow the process.   

https://roads-waterways.transport.nsw.gov.au/documents/about/forms/45070967-historic-vehicle-declaration.pdf

https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/rms-form-45070939-conditional-reg.pdf

 

Classic Registration:

CVS requires a little more paperwork, but again for new registrations refer to this flow chart:

Download  Classic Vehicle New registration flowchart – this process needs to be followed.

Download  Classic Vehicle Registration Renewal flowchart – which is subtly different to New registration process.

TfNSW forms to complete:

https://roads-waterways.transport.nsw.gov.au/documents/about/forms/45072029-classic-vehicle-declaration.pdf  and

https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/rms-form-45070939-conditional-reg.pdf

There is a process that needs to be followed and it is shown in a flow chart format.  Follow the process by starting at the top left and work your way through it.

We look forward to being able to assist and make the Historic and or Classic Vehicle Schemes work for our members. as painless as possible

Note:  To members sending documentation to the Registrars, please only use Express Post otherwise the documents will invariably be delayed.  Yes, it does cost more to send but considering you are about to save so much, it is worth it.  Also contact the registrars via email to obtain the most appropriate mailing address to which you will be sending your documentation and this will minimise the time it takes to process the documentation at our end. (Email either for historic registration or for Classic Registration)

Summary:

New HVS:

It is really very simple if you can satisfy the criteria set down by TfNSW.  However, assuming the basic criteria that your car is 30 years old or more (since the date of manufacture) and it is a BMW, below is a summary of the flow chart.

  1. You will need to satisfy the Club’s membership requirements and you should understand these requirements as detailed in the Clubs Constitution (found elsewhere on our web site)
  2. Complete a TfNSW Historic Vehicle Declaration form (Form 45070967)
  3. Complete a TfNSW Application for Conditional registration form (form 45070939)
  4. Have a Pink Slip (less then 42 days old from registration application to the TfNSW)
  5. Have a purchase receipt for the vehicle showing:

HVS5a

Car Details

HVS5b

Seller Details

I

Rego Number (if unregistered, show as “Unregistered”)

i

Full Name

Ii

Make

ii

Full Address

Iii

Model

iii

Contact Number

Iv

Colour

HVS5c

Purchaser Details

V

Year of Manufacture

i

Full Name

Vi

VIN

ii

Full Address

Vii

Odometer

iii

Contact Number

HVS5d

Declaration of the amount that the vehicle was purchased for (you can be honest here as there is NO Stamp Duty applicable for an unregistered historic vehicle)

HVS5e

Signatures:   Signed and dated by both Purchaser AND Seller

  1. Photographs of the vehicle’s exterior (all sides) and ¾ view, interior, engine bay, brakes, suspension, wheels, tyres and manufacturers compliance plate.
  2. Details of any modifications
  3. Vehicle Import Approval (if applicable)
  4. Note: You do NOT require a Green Slip
  5. All of this information should be sent by Express Post mail along with an Express Post self-addressed envelope (for return mail) to the Club’s HVS Registrar, Gary Winterbottom (). Please email Gary for a physical postal address detail. Do not send to the Club’s PO box address unless you have time to burn waiting for the response.
  6. Renewal of HVS registration is relatively simple where:
  7. You will need to be a current financial member of the Club (the Club’s Constitution requirement)
  8. Complete a TfNSW Historic Vehicle Declaration form (Form 45070967)
  9. Complete a TfNSW Application for Conditional Registration (Form 45070939)
  10. Have a Pink Slip (less than 42 days old from registration application to the TfNSW)
  11. Provide recent photographs of the vehicle’s exterior (all sides) interior, engine bay.
  12. Provide details of any new modifications

The documentation is to be endorsed by the Club’s HVS Registrar so long as it and your membership status both pass the eligibility tests. 

New CVS Registration:

  1. You will need to satisfy the Club’s membership requirements and you should understand these requirements as detailed in the Clubs Constitution (found elsewhere on our web site)
  2. Complete a TfNSW Classic Vehicle Declaration form (Form 45072029)
  3. Complete a TfNSW Application for Conditional registration form (form 45070939)
  4. Have a Blue Slip (less than 42 days old from registration application to the TfNSW)
  5. Have a purchase receipt for the vehicle showing:

CVS5a

Car Details

CVS5b

Seller Details

I

Rego Number (if unregistered, show as “Unregistered”)

i

Full Name

Ii

Make

ii

Full Address

Iii

Model

iii

Contact Number

Iv

Colour

CVS5c

Purchaser Details

V

Year of Manufacture

i

Full Name

Vi

VIN

ii

Full Address

Vii

Odometer

iii

Contact Number

CVS5d

Declaration of the amount that the vehicle was purchased for (you can be honest here as there is NO Stamp Duty applicable for an unregistered Classic vehicle)

CVS5e

Signatures:   Signed and dated by both Purchaser AND Seller

 

  1. Vehicle Safety Certificate of Compliance (VSCC) if applicable or TfNSW Certification.
  2. Photographs of the vehicle’s exterior (all sides) and ¾ view, interior, engine bay, brakes, suspension, wheels, tyres and manufacturers compliance plate.
  3. Details of any modifications.
  4. Vehicle Import Approval (if applicable)

Note: You do NOT require a Green Slip

All this information (except only send a copy of the blue slip) should be forwarded by Post to the Club’s CVS Registrar, Randall Lumbewe, email: .  You should contact the Secretary prior to posting, to obtain the most appropriate postal address.

Renewal of CVS registration is relatively simple where:

  1. You will need to be a financial member of the BMW NSW Drivers Club whilst ever the Club has endorsed you and your vehicle as eligible for CVS (Refer to the Club’s Constitution requirement)
  2. Complete a TfNSW Classic Vehicle Declaration form (Form 45072029)
  3. Complete a TfNSW Application for Conditional Registration (Form 45070939)
  4. Have a Pink Slip (less than 42 days old from registration application to the TfNSW)
  5. Photographs of the vehicle’s exterior (all sides) and ¾ view, interior, engine bay, brakes, suspension and wheels, tyres.
  6. Provide details of any new modifications

Again, this documentation is to be endorsed by the BMW Drivers Club NSW CVS Registrar and Council of Motor Clubs Inc. (CMC) with the proviso that your membership and vehicle both pass the eligibility tests.